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When Is Job On The Bible Timeline?

Job is not on the Amazing Bible Timeline with World History. Why not?

Job is not on the timeline because biblical scholars cannot agree on when he might have lived, and the Bible does not give enough direct clues to place him accurately.

Here are three suggested times Job might have lived by the reasoning of Biblical scholars:

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1. After the flood and long before Moses (after 2350 BC and before 1750 BC)

a. Eliphaz refers to the flood as being in the past in Job 22:16
b. Job sacrifices to God as head of his family (a practice of patriarchal times that stopped with Moses) Job 1:5
c. Job’s daughters received an inheritance along with his sons Job 42:15 a patriarchal practice that also stopped with Moses
d. Job’s wealth is determined by flocks rather than money that is also consistent with patriarchal times Job 1:3, 42:12
e. The kesitah or piece of money mentioned belongs to patriarchal times
f. The musical instruments (organ, harp, and timbrel) are the instruments of early Genesis
g. Job lived long enough to birth two families of ten children and raise them to adulthood then lived another 140 years. He lived at least 200 years and possibly longer. This is consistent with the ages of patriarchs prior to Abraham.
(Read more on this at apologetics press)

2. Job lived after Joseph but before Moses (after 1650 BC and before 1500 BC)

The reasoning for this time placement is that he must have lived between truly righteous men but not when other righteous patriarchs were alive. Therefore, he is placed between Joseph and Moses. Job 1:8 ( Read more at wiki answers )

3. Job lived during Moses’ lifetime.

Job is an associate of Moses’ father-in-law. According to this opinion, Moses authored the Book of Job. Some say he was one of Pharaoh’s advisors, together with Jethro and Balaam. (More on this from Rabbi Buchwald )

There’s our problem. Since better Biblical scholars than we are cannot agree we did not put Job on the timeline. (But you could pen him in on your copy!)

Please give us your opinion! When do you think Job lived, and how did you come to that conclusion?

 

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19 thoughts on “When Is Job On The Bible Timeline?

  1. I believe Job live after the flood and before Abraham was called.2200-1700BC. He was the only descendant of Ham who do good. Because Job was from Uz in Arab and the descendants of Ham built more of Arabian countries even Egypt,Hawila etc(Genesis 10:8-12)

    1. I believe jobs life takes place before the flood. The only place I can find the description of dinosaurs is in job 40&41. I believe the flood was the result of the extinction of the dinosaurs.

      Pre noah

      1. I believe that job came before Moses because job chapter meantions dinosaurs and I think the meteor every one is all talking about that killed the dinosaurs did happen BUT not what they think I think God saw the meteor heading towards earth and would use that to cause the flood I’m mean think about enough force of a big meteor could cause a weather change big time I hope I didn’t a fend anyone I’m a strong Christian and I strongly believe that’s what happen god bless you all thanks for your info and option and thanks for this site guys

      2. Some Dinosaurs were on the Ark. They were not carnivorous, but herbivorous, until after the the Flood, as part of the Rainbow Covenant. Hence, in the Antediluvian World, these reptiles were not a threat to the population, unless those animals who, according to the Book of Jasher, protected the Ark from the throngs of people storming it, when it began to rain, and the deeps were broken up. The Dinosaurs certainly were later, which is why that Nimrod gained such an immense reputation and following, by dispatching them.

    2. So you gone sit up here and say Ham’s descendants did No Good..are you serious right now…This is the type of stuff that they teach you to make you feel privileged and superior…It is a LIE!!!

      Know your History and who you really are then you will know that is not true….

  2. Maybe the reference to the land of Uz and Eliphaz the Temanite can give some hint, at least about where Job lived.

    Job 1:1
    There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name [was] Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.
    Job 2:11
    Now when Job’s three friends heard of all this evil that was come upon him, they came every one from his own place; Eliphaz the Temanite, and Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite: for they had made an appointment together to come to mourn with him and to comfort him.

    Uz: son of Aram, son of Shem ?
    And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash. (Genesis 10, 23)
    Tema: son of Dishan, son of Seir (son of Esau) ?
    Hadar, and Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah: (Genesis 25, 15)
    Tema, son of Ishmael, son of Abraham ?
    Mishma, and Dumah, Massa, Hadad, and Tema, (1 Chronicles 1, 30)

  3. Uz may refer to the guy in Genesis, which would place it in northern Canaan. However, Uz is also used in Jeremiah to refer to the regions near Edom (which Esau founded) to the southeast. Job is referred to as “the greatest of the men of the east” or some such thing. As the language in Job is closer to that written toward the Babylonian period, I tend to think the Uz is the one in Jeremiah, and not the one in Genesis.

  4. Based on answer 1 and 3, #2 is nonsense and not viable. Job 42:16.

    1. 1. After the flood and long before Moses (after 2350 BC and before 1750 BC)
      This could fit with the Chaldeans, Sabeans, the wind, the origins of Job’s three friends, and one of the more likely places for Uz. This seems plausible.

      2. Job lived after Joseph but before Moses (after 1650 BC and before 1500 BC)
      After Joseph, would have meant the land of Goshen. Goshen doesn’t fit with the Chaldeans and Sabeans, where the 3 friends were from, nor with the wind from the desert, so it doesn’t seem likely we could equate that with Uz. I don’t see how his he could have been robbed of everything, and not have it replaced immediately with retribution on those who robbed him. He would have been a poor risk for anyone to plunder. One could not be that useful to Pharaoh from afar. This does not seem plausible.

      3. Job lived during Moses’ lifetime.
      Like 1, the land of Midian fits better with the Chaldeans, Sabeans, the wind, the origins of Job’s three friends, and one of the more likely places for Uz.

      Thoughts:
      – I would agree with Wally that number 2 has many problems. In my mind, that leaves only 1 and 3.
      – To me, it seems Genesis uses more of a historical style that appears to be compiled from writings over time, which included the important details that shaped history. Except for the very beginning of the book, it could not have been simply passed down by word of mouth. As the book progresses, so does the level of detail. This history must have had some value to them to be preserved.
      – The author of Job writes with great detail of the conversations, as one with first-hand knowledge or experience with Job and his trials. There is little summarization, and God spoke directly into that situation. It might have been Moses’s father-in-law, a book received from him, or Moses himself. His father-in-law was a valuable guide to Moses even during the Exodus. It is certainly possible that he brought the book back with him.
      – I am not a Biblical scholar, but I do not currently ascribe to the position that the earliest recorded scriptures were compiled during the time of Moses. I’m inclined to believe that Genesis was compiled during Joseph’s watch. Exodus begins with a summarization of the time between Joseph and Moses. I’m suggesting that the people had Genesis, and Moses learned it before he turned 12. I’m suggesting that he knew, and felt a sense of destiny from that point forward. This is evident not only from when he killed the Egyptian, but how he responded at the burning bush. He knew full well that Israel’s deliverance was to happen. The record of Genesis was likely the basis of the Israelites accepting him. The time of Moses was one of amazing miracles and deliverance. The scriptures from the time of Abraham would have had heightened value to them because their generation witnessed prophecy being fulfilled. It would make sense that there would be renewed interest in preserving the scriptures, as had not been the case since the time of Joseph. Many people had witnessed the prophecy being fulfilled. This would have engendered the value of the scriptures as trustworthy, a guide for living, and a certainty of their authenticity that everything written in them would be fulfilled. With that would come the desire to formalize their preservation. It is written in Romans 3, “Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the value of circumcision? Much in every way. To begin with, the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God. “
      – It is plausible that Moses brought the book back from Midian with him. However, what is more certain is that Job seems to have been written by an author who was very close to his circumstances, and not something passed down from generation to generation by word of mouth. It seems Job did not have access to the book of Genesis, and thus has origins outside of the formed people of Israel. Somehow it ended up being accepted by Israel, and is referenced elsewhere in Ezekiel and James.

      This is about as far as my thoughts can take me base on what I know. My adding anything more would detract from the discussion.

    2. – I would think that the mention about giving his daughters an inheritance would more likely be included only if it were NOT the norm. I would say the same for the span of Job’s life. Everything else was doubled, Maybe the Lord restored to him the years “that the locust hath eaten” (Joel 2:25)
      – Sacrifices by the patriarch I would refer to a very broad range of time. I don’t see mention of a designated place of worship until after the exodus, and may have gone on a long time after that by believers that were not members of the formed nation of Israel.

      I’m going to go with 1, “After the flood and long before Moses” I’ll go so far as to say Job is from closer to the time of Abraham, and probably earlier. This is my reasoning:
      – There is a widespread belief that Abraham was unique in that he believed in the one true God. I cannot come up with a basis for that from the scriptures. It sounds like is dad moved them away from that. Abraham may have lived around idol-worshiping, polytheistic people, but the belief in one God predates that. I find no reason to believe that the belief in one true God was not widespread. Job’s friends believed in one God. From the scrape Abraham had with the king of Egypt over Sarah, it seems there was a good concept of God in Egypt at that time too.
      – It’s natural to think off Abraham and Sarah traveling together along with a servant Hagar. However, there is something wrong with that picture. Poor people don’t have servants. Notice that Abraham didn’t move until after his father died. Abraham was the oldest boy, and the decisions were not his to make until after his father died. I’m suggesting the Abraham was the leader/king of a tribe, and when the Bible talks about Abraham wanting son, Abraham is thinking about leadership of the tribe. I’m saying it was a lot more than him, Sarah, and Hagar that went to Egypt. When Lot was kidnapped, Abraham went after the king that did it with 700 guys from this tribe, and defeated the king, and freed Lot. 700 guys that can fight means a lot of women and children besides. They must have been bound together by language, beliefs, protection, and their own private economy. So while technically all of those possessions were attributed to Abraham, those “possessions” were supporting a tribe, and determined its growth and size.
      – Chaldeans are definitely a Babylonian tribe. They were one of the groups to sack Nineveh after the death of Ashurbanipal, and the Chaldeans were around for quite a while before that. Genesis 11:28, 11:31 has “Ur of the Chaldees” In that case it would not make sense to place the Job story before the Flood.
      – As with Abraham, Job must have led quite an organization/tribe to take care of that much livestock. Gen 13:2 says, “And Abram was very rich in cattle, in silver, and in gold.” Egypt was already a nation by the time of Abraham. Thus, in Abraham’s time, sliver and gold must have been used as portable wealth in trade. Silver and gold are not mentioned as a measure of Job’s wealth. Perhaps gold and silver had no usefulness to Job.
      – From reading Genesis, it is obvious that there had been a growing dearth of personal relationships with God between the fall and the flood. This pattern repeated after the flood, and we have little outside of begats until the time of Abraham about a relationship between God and a man. Romans 3:1&2 say, “What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God” Perhaps the book of Job was from the time of Abraham’s ancestors, and the earliest, written, first-hand account.The Chaldean language was a Semitic language. Perhaps what is meant by the text is a lot simpler than we make it out to be. God used Abraham and the Jews to maintain the scriptures and knowledge of the one true God. Through Abraham would all of the nations of the earth be blessed, not only through Jesus, but also with a book that teaches how to get the most out of life.

      This is all just a theory of course, but to me option 1 is the only one that fits geographically, and possibly linguistically, where Job and his friends lived.

      1. God has always had a Remnant people that believed in a God that started with Adam and Eve.

  5. The mention of animals resembling dinosaurs makes me think Job’s experience must have occurred not very long after the flood. What really is convincing is Job’s long life and even the ability to have children at that age.

  6. I think the clues are there. Definitely after the flood and concurrent with Moses. There are clues in the texts that can be read in papyri in Egypt relating to the type of life a man has led and Egyptian pharoahs were referred to as lords in the the way they were addressed. Also in the death texts and also tomb and temple walls ppl always present themselves at the death saying ..”I have done the right thing, lived a righteous life etc…”

    When Moses was asking pharoah to release the Hebrews the local (tectonic plates location) earthquakes/volcanic activity had already started. All the plagues had hit and at the point of the plague of boils many were sick. It would not be unreasonable to think that Job contracted this and the text was a record of this. This fits in with Moses before the laws were introduced and after Joseph when they were all in Egypt. Job felt as though he was going to die and was following the tradition of saying “I have done this, and not done this, and asking how he had offended God. As they would have been in Egypt his friends would have been taken to task about not following the tradition, and told that Job had done the right thing. This seems to me to be a meeting of history and tradition of two cultures that had grown together.

  7. I am sondering if Eliphaz the Temanite was a son of Esau. Gen 36:31

  8. Many nice and insightful comments about Job. The last one is hitting onto something.
    Bear with me while I give my ideas on this very interesting topic. I am being brief.

    When the Arabs invaded Egypt in the 7th c. they found the Pyramids forgotten about. In Christ’s time, the Pyramids were a tourist destination. It was from the 1st c. to the 7th c. when they fell under disrepair, so to speak. Al’ Ma’mun, an Arab caliph, in the 9th c., uncovered the entrance to the Pyramid hoping to find treasure, but he only re-opened the entrance; Strabo, the early Roman historian during the 1st c. said it was a tourist destination in his time.
    At the entrance to the Great Pyramid, the builder’s name is written: Khufu in Egyptian or Cheops in Greek.
    It is common knowledge that the Egyptians did not build the Pyramid. The famous Egyptian Manetho, who lived several hundred years before Christ, wrote that “Khufu was of a different race” 1.
    Herodotus wrote the builders were shepherds….the Egyptians were NOT shepherds (Gen. 46:31-34). We know who were at this time, though, don’t we?.
    Yet, this Khufu/Cheops was a shepherd.
    Josephus wrote that the Egyptians set the Israelites “to build pyramids”2
    But, the pyramids built during the enslavement of the Israelites were shoddy by comparison to the Great Pyramid.
    Also, Cheops was a monotheist. Herodotus wrote that he closed the temples and prohibited the Egyptians from sacrificing to their pagan gods and idols. 3
    Cheop’s god was ‘Amen’. Note the Revelation 3:14 reference.
    As we know, many Egyptian pharaohs at this time had ‘amen’ in their names.
    Now, the pharaoh Joseph was under was Amenemhet III. And in Gen. 41:45 we read that this pharaoh gave Joseph a wife (Ephraim and Manasseh’s mom) whose father was a ‘priest of On’. The Septuagint (LXX) renders this verse as a ‘priest of Heliopolis’. Thus, some say this On refers to the sun god Ra, yet others say it refers to the One True God in Revelation 1:8 because the Greek word used for ‘One’ is ‘On’.
    Rev 1:8 states, “I am the Alpha and the Omega says the Lord God, ‘the One Who is, the One Who was, and the One Who is coming—the Omnipotent” (Emphatic Diaglott). The original Greek here uses the word ων, which, according to Strong’s Greek 5607 and 1510 refers to “I Am” and with 1473 is “I was”.
    Anyway, the Egyptians knew of the One True God in Joseph’s day. It was not until Moses that idolatry spread. In the time from Joseph till Moses when we read there was a pharaoh that ‘forgot Joseph’. But, this is another matter.
    So, when was the Pyramid built then?.
    Modern scholars are usually too narrow-minded and heathenistic to use the Bible as an historical guide, but not all of them. When researching such things, try to find reputable, yet open-minded, sources. Running to Wikipedia won’t do it.

    Cheops was a contemporary of Zoser, who built the ‘step’ pyramids shortly before Cheops built the Great Pyramid 4
    Zoser ruled lower Egypt at the same time Joseph was prime minister under Amenemhet III. Zoser also recorded the 7 years drought 5
    Cheops must have built the GP during the Israelite time in Egypt directly after the seven years famine we read of in the Bible. Amenemhet III was pharaoh of all Egypt and Zoser was under him; Cheops was a foreign king whose domain extended into Egypt.
    Now, a famous man that helped Cheops build the Pyramid was Souf (spellings may be different) who was the “chief of the works of Khufu”6.
    This Souf had 12 brothers who built the Labyrinth for Amenemhet III. This same man is today called Yousouf in Egypt and was named Zaphnathpaaneah by pharaoh Amenemhet III. Yes, it is Joseph!!!
    Joseph helped build the Pyramids right around the time of the famous seven year famine.
    According to Manetho, this Cheops also wrote scripture. Manetho says, “he was arrogant toward the gods, but repented and wrote the Sacred Book” 1.
    Khufu/Cheops was from Mt. Seir, which was also called the “Land of Uz” 7.
    Uz was a descendant of Seir the Horite (Gen. 36:28)
    So, who lived in Uz, was arrogant and repented, and wrote a Sacred book?. Sound familiar?.
    Yes, JOB!!!.
    See Job 3:11-15; 29:21-25.
    This is why Job was so wealthy. In Job 38:4-6, when God is scolding Job for being swelled up, it is as if He is saying, “Oh yeah, you think you’re big because you built the Pyramids, but where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?”.
    Job was the son of Issachar (Gen. 46:13), Joseph’s brother, and lived in the generation after Esau, Jacob’s brother.
    His friend Eliphaz, the father of the Temanites and son of Esau, was Job’s cousin.
    Yet, Job lived before Moses, so only Levites were allowed to sacrifice (Job 1:5, 42:8); the Flood is still in the peoples memory (Job 22:16).
    Pharaoh gave the Israelites the Land of Goshen (Gen. 47:11), which extends from Palestine west to the Nile (Gen. 15:18). Funny how the Arabs claim it all now.
    On another note, some think that Isa. 19:19-20 may refer to the Pyramid. It is interesting that they have stood the test of time and the only one of the Seven Ancient Wonders still standing. In recent years, the crazy Muslim extremist nut jobs now ruling Egypt have threatened to destroy them, but have not as yet; despite destroying many other ancient sites in their fanaticism. Is Providence preventing this?.
    Herodotus said the GP was built over a 20 year span in three months per year when the Nile overflowed and the people were idle, and also during the seven years famine when labor was available 8. But, thanks to Joseph, they prepared for the famine. The loss of record after 23 years corresponds to when Job lost his sons. The deaths of the sons of Cheops are recorded at the tombs near Giza. Not sure which one, though. But, this appears to be when Job lost his sons. The Turin Canon and Palermo stone date Cheops (Job) rule from 1726 BC to 1703 BC.
    Manetho then records Cheops reign from 1726 BC to 1663 BC and Joseph from 1734 BC to 1668 BC.

    Other sources put Joseph being sold into slavery c. 1723 BC and being 37 years old when the famine hit circa 1703 BC. Job is around this time.

    I, personally, believe the Pyramid is more than just a pyramid. It has major significance. I believe Job was indeed Cheops and he and Joseph played a large part in the construction of the Great Pyramids. They received the gratitude of the Egyptian people.
    As many may also know, the Pyramid and the two smaller ones with it align with Orion’s belt and are a mirror image of Orion’s belt on the ground. This cannot be disputed. Look it up. It’s fascinating. Graham Hancock has written books on this.
    Where does this play in if Job and Joseph did have such a large part to play in the building of the Pyramids?.
    Well, we read in Job 9:9, “Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.” ; In Job 38:31, we also read, “Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?”; A coincidence?. I think not!!.
    The so-called ‘mainstream’ archaeologists or Egyptologists will accept extraterrestrials traveled light years across the Universe and built the Pyramids, but mention Job, Joseph, or God Almighty and you’re crazy!. Those are the small minds that decide what’s true and what’s not.

    In Amos 5:8, we find it is He who makes the seven stars (SHD #3598, Kiymah, Pleiades) and Orion (SHD #3685, Keiyl) who is to be sought out and worshipped. The symbolism of the seven stars relates to the seven spirits of God. The seven stars are also seen as the angels of the seven Churches, which were clustered like Pleiades.
    The above info is circumstantial, but very compelling. I have only written a small part in brief.
    Albeit circumstantial, and would be disputed by many, there is historical record that points to Job being Cheops/Khufu. The Orion connection is also cool. There may be a significance that has been lost.

    The timeline I gave for Job is not too far off. I believe it is prety close to the time he lived. The Exodus was around

    1. Wathens Arts and Antiquities of Egypt, pg. 54
    2. Antiquities of the Jews, book II, pg. 9
    3. History, book II
    4. Budge, A History of Egypt, book2, pg. 9
    5. Cambridge Ancient History, pg. 309-310
    6. Rawlinson’s Egypt, ch. 14
    7. Clarkes Commentary, vol. III, preface to Book of Job
    8. Antiquities of the Jews, II, ch. 7

  9. Job was the great grandson of Abrahams brother, Nahor. Nahor’s grandson was the elder UZ. You can fill in the rest from there. It’s not science and playing the guessing game with the Bible is no different than being a pagan.

    1. sorry, Nahor’s son was the elder UZ, not grandson. 1chron

    2. Both Abraham and Job were Horites.

  10. This is ALL so fascinating! Thanks everyone! I see that Issachar is Job’s father making Joseph Job’s Uncle. Is that right? I really think that they should have put that on the timeline. Seems pretty clear in the Bible. Thanks again, all who commented. Really something to think about.

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