There are various beliefs regarding which son was responsible for the Asian peoples. This site (https://www.askelm.com/prophecy/p920901.htm ) has a good reference giving the source of Asian peoples as Kittim grandson of Japheth.
Here are the pertinent paragraphs “Look at these Japhetic peoples for a moment. We know that Meshech and Tubal are associated with Eastern Europe and Central Asia. Some people have even connected the city of Moscow in Russia with Meshech. That is a possibility. These nations of Japheth moved north and then on farther east. Later on, we find that Gomer and Javan and the others of Japheth followed them into the east into the region of what we call China today.
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They also went into Southeast Asia, and then through the Malay archipelago into various islands of the ocean… Look at what this means regarding the Chinese who were once known as the people of Cathay or Kittim. Believe it or not, the Kittim people were the original ones who first settled the island of Cyprus in the eastern Mediterranean after the Tower of Babel incident. From there they went further westward and made settlements in Italy. Then they were pushed northward and then eastward by Semites coming from the eastern Mediterranean areas. The people of Kittim journeyed even further north and then eastward into the central areas of Asia. Finally winding up in the region we now call China (indeed, an early name of China was Cathay which comes from the root word Khitai which also answers to Kittim, the “im ” is plural).”
Here’s an article giving the sixteen grandsons of Noah and the cultures/countries that descend from them. Also answers two common questions on race and that pesky “did God really condemn interracial” marriage question.
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I appreciate your selfless labour in bringing out this information. Thanks.
It help alot for me to understanding my root…thank you.
The descendants of Japhet settled in the coastlands. The Bible says Japhet shall dwell in the tent of Shem. So the Chinese are from Shem,Ham and Japhet and not specifically from Japhet or Ham.
Japheth was the only one of the three sons of Noah who was associated with Gentiles. Chinese came from that line at some point . They were sea men as you said, but the “shall dwell in the house of Shem” is a prophecy. It’s happening now.
THANK YOU WHY DON’T THEY GET THIS
I’m sorry but that is terribly false and only shows you have a very limited understanding of East Asian history. China was never identified as Khitai or Kittim by those who dwelled there. It was only known as Khitai or Cathay by countries situated to the West of China because they could only penetrate eastward until they came upon the Khitan Empire ruled by the nomadic Khitais. The REAL China was further East beyond Khitan lands around the Yellow River delta region where the locals referred to themselves by the Dynasty during which they lived.
The land of Chittim (kittim), is Italy and/Greece,not China. Remember, Alexander the Great was from Kittim. The Chinese are descendants of the 8th son of Canaan, whose name was Sinim. Canaan was the 4th son of Ham. Therefore, the Chinese are Hamites.
I think your wrong and you put information just to benefit yourself
Why would you comment just to say that you “think” he’s wrong and not even bother to do any research on his comment. I am grateful for people who do their research. According to my research of Christopher’s comment “Many scholars have favored identification with China, the classical Sinae.” So, at least his comment has some basis and wasn’t put forward to “benefit” himself. Whatever that means?
Kindly replies Nina; agree with your ”Whatever that means?”,
which i felt too that it did not make sense to just dismiss
other’s thoughts with out even considering their meanings
or intentions?
your research assisted with knowing more basis about the
descendants of the ancestors of China, the Sinae people,
besides the many other possibilities mentioned or
wondered that others believe or favor, discovered or found
East Asians as well as West Asians come from Shem.
I don’t know that’s kind of hard to believe because the book of jubilees says Canaan settled in a land that was not his which didn’t belong to him and that land was shem’s and this is the land that GOD promised Abraham and his descendants forever
They do not prove it! They come from Ham!
I absolutely agree. Since recently I have been doing a lot of research on who the Chinese are biblically and it was mind blowing to find that the Chinese were the only ones who worshiped The Almighty Creator of Heaven & Earth millenniums before there were Hebrews and before the Torah was given. The Chinese called Him “Shang Di” like in Hebrew “El Shaddai”. Their ancient pictographic writings clearly talk about creation as in the Bk of Genesis, also about their worship and prayers to the Most High YHVH and a lot more. It’s worth watching these videos by Chinese Preachers who can interpret the ancient pictographic language. It’s truly fascinating. Btw, I learnt from the Chinese Preachers themselves that they are from the line of Shem. Shalom!!
Wrong, East Asians as well as West Asians are from Shem, not Ham.
That makes all the sense in the world! They absolutely come from ham because I remember reading a story somewhere talking about how children of ham and shem fought for years in that Indian/ Chinese landmass. And there are native African tribes that look identical to Chinese.
I agree. Also, there is some evidence that the Hittites were originally Canaanites before being conquered by a group of Indo-Europeans (Japhethites). Some think they fled to the land of their Sinitic brothers who evidently once occupied the Sinai Peninsula and the “Wilderness of Sin.” This area was well watered for 300 or so years after the Flood.
Amen!
This is correct.
I just did some digging myself on where the Chinese came from and they came through Ham. Per District Superintendent D.M.Simmons Sr.
Amen! I found some similar information on this subject a month ago!
Amen, and they trace themselves back to Sin’s other brothers.
the Hivite, the Arkite, the Sinite, And the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. Gen 10:17, 18
Magog and Tubal are the Turks and Mongolian who are closely related to Russia and Turks. They all came from that area. Their eyes slant down all Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Thailand, Koreans, and Hawaiians all have eyes slanting up!
China is Sinim
A lot of work was put into this! I just stumbled across it. Blessings to you!
chinese are hamites. Genesis said ham would be a servant to both his brothers. (made in china). Shemites are bloodline of Jesus. Asians don’t have anything to do with Jesus for thousands of years. They aren’t shemites.
No it said Canaan would be
I disagree. Chinese shares a lot of commonalities with the Jewish people. But go and check out the chinese characters for “Righteousness” or “Boat” or “Create” or “Tempter”-use the original chinese scripts (not simplified). Likely they are very much like the Shemites in how they love to write, store memories in scrolls, respect the elders etc etc. Also at one point in ancient Chinese folklore, they all worship an invisible Almighty Being which the emperor must sacrifice once a year for the people’s sins
I feel like it is a big deal that we know exactly who comes from who
Have you all considered the mixing of the families? There were large swaths of land where the peoples mixed together. They didn’t go far from the site of the Ark until after God confused their languages at Babel. So while there were areas that were strictly Ham’s, Shem’s and Japheth’s, there were also areas where they mixed together.
I don’t think that Ham’s family was to serve the other families forever. First of all, I just don’t see evidence of one group of people being subservient to another for any long amount of time. (No more than a few hundred years, never for thousands,) I actually think that It was Just Ham and any children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren who were around when he was still alive. The Bible never says it lasted any longer than that.
Amen!
Would Pakistanis be from Shem ham or Japheth?
Excuse me, but I hate to break the ice… there are Canaanites and Israelites in Africa. There are Israelites and Canaanites all over the world. The Babylonians have taken women slaves from Jerusalem, as well as the Assyrians. Even in the 1400’s … Chinese, blacks and Indians were Slaves to the Europeans. They all had their way with the women, even some taking wives. So you see, esau and Jacob interbred all these years. Years and years. When Moses lead Israelites out of Egypt, followed behind was a “mixed “ multitude. Gentiles who converted. They all interbred. The Bible says there is nothing new under the sun. So just as people are breeding interracially today, they’ve been doing it then. So if you like it or not… we are all cousins. Family. Period. No matter what region you come from. God told Abraham he is going to spread his seed to edge of the world.
Amen, of course we were all related as far back as coming from Noah when he exited the Ark. Even further back from Adam. It’s still interesting to research where the different human family tribes sprung up.
Amen! There is nothing new under the Sun!
Noah’s sons fathered three groups of people, dispersing mankind around the globe. Noah predicts how his sons relate to one another, but whether inferior or superior that has to do with groups not redeemed. Jesus Christ makes ancestry meaningless. We have this. A follower of the LORD is a “new creation” (2 Corinthians 5:17). New creation has no connection to blessing or curse on flesh. My point is this.
Pride or anger about heritage matters when ancestry is important. However, the LORD Jesus Christ and God’s call is bigger than ancestry! Knowing how mankind spread from a few is interesting, but the descendants are sinners (Romans 3:23) and it’s no surprise that there are conflicts (James 4:1-4).
We all were created by god to spread all over the world until the end of the world as we know it to be.
What if they all intermarried and had a bit of each?